OT: My personal test of 20 free offline Android gps map routing applications
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Danny D'Amico
2013-12-27 17:49:23 UTC
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 06:41:23 -0800, ***@optonline.net wrote:

>> So, I may be "grandfathered" in, under the old no-data plan.
> Yes, I think somehow you got lucky, because it's been a long
> standing problem that people have been bitching about that
> the carriers will not let you use a smartphone on their networks
> without a data plan.

To be very clear, I had filed an FCC complaint about a year or two
ago, against AT&T for that very same reason.

I argued long and hard with the AT&T VP who called me in response
to my FCC complaint, all to no avail. In fact, the funny thing is,
that AT&T replied to the FCC that the "matter was resolved to the
customer's satisfaction". I dropped AT&T in favor of T-Mobile!

I was so tired of the fight, they had worn me down so much, that
I simply gave up on getting AT&T to reconsider. I had even filed
an FTC complaint of "Unfair Marketing Practices", since their
*stated reason* was to have a predictable bill - and - I argued
to the FTC that they also allowed a data block - so I could get
a predictable bill without a data plan.

In the end, I simply gave up. The exhausted even me. And that's
not easy to do. I simply moved to T-Mobile, who was happy to
take my money without me having to have a data plan.

So, there's no doubt that I have a T-Mobile plan that doesn't
have any data!
Danny D'Amico
2013-12-28 01:44:38 UTC
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:17:00 -0800, ***@optonline.net wrote:

> While I thought it would be nice to have data anywhere,
> I figured it wasn't worth $480 a year to me and that there were
> enough wifi spots that I would have lived with using that. But
> since Verizon won't allow it, I started looking elsewhere.

That's exactly why I dropped AT&T in favor of T-Mobile.

I didn't want to pay for a data plan which, over the course of
a year, would cost me more than a brand new smart phone.

Luckily, T-Mobile gladly took me without data ($70/month for
4 phones for unlimited text and 1,000 shared minutes, with
WiFi calling enabled and VOIP also not restricted).

That's the good news. The bad news is that T-Mobile apparently
no longer offers a no-data plan; so, they're as bad at AT&T,
and, maybe even worse, depending on whether AT&T charges less
than that for a dumb phone. (Do they?)
Danny D'Amico
2013-12-28 01:45:54 UTC
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:17:00 -0800, ***@optonline.net wrote:

> That's when I found Zact, one of the prepaid low cost providers
> that ride on Sprint. It's going to cost me $21 a month for
> 500 voice, 25 txt, 100 mb data. For $100 at BestBuy Mobile I
> got a ZTE AWE Android that I'm very happy with. And that included
> 4 months of free service, 300 voice, 500 txt, 500 mb data, so
> I'm only paying $5/mth line fee for the first 4 months.
> If I stayed with Verizon, it would have been $90 + taxes/fees =~$95
> a month. For 4 months it would be $380. Plus a new smartphone with
> a 2 y contract would have probably cost me at least $50. So about
> $430 total. Zact new phone and service for those 4 months is ~$130.
> And after that, I should be paying around $21 a month. I had my number
> ported over in about an hour. And since there is no contract, even
> if I decide it's crap in two months and want to go somewhere else,
> I'm better off than if I stayed at Verizon.
> You should check out their website:
> http://www.zact.com/
> If you click on buy now, select one phone, it brings up a
> cell phone image where you can dial in the number of voice
> mins, txts, data you want and the calculator instantly
> changes to show you the month price. Whatever $$ is shown,
> there is an additional line fee of $5 + $3 in taxes, etc.
> So, with my numbers, it was $16+5+3 = 21. It's really cool,
> finally seeing someone offer cell service like it should
> have been all along. And they are cheap to boot.

This Zact stuff seems pretty good!
2013-12-28 07:25:34 UTC
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:17:00 -0800, ***@optonline.net wrote:
> That's when I found Zact, one of the prepaid low cost providers
> that ride on Sprint.
> ... <www.zact.com> ...

Does zact activate previously active Sprint-branded handsets? Looks like
not: "we do not support the option to bring your own device at this time."

That's a PITA/pity -- I'd have a nifty old Sprint-branded Palm Treo 650
that'd love to get itself reactivated ... an LG Rumor2 too, and others.

Cheers, -- tlvp
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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