Discussion:
FYI: HTC ExtUSB connector and USB cables
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John Navas
2010-08-13 17:09:36 UTC
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Although the latest HTC handsets use a standard Micro USB connection,
some earlier HTC handsets (e.g., T-Mobile myTouch 3G, aka HTC Magic)
used a proprietary HTC "ExtUSB" connection.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extusb#Proprietary_connectors_and_formats>

Although ExtUSB cables tend to be harder to find, with fewer varieties,
and more expensive than standard USB cables, the ExtUSB connector is
backward compatible with Mini USB, which means a standard Mini USB cable
will work for charge and sync functions. The extra pins in ExtUSB are
only for (analog) audio and video.

Caveat: Standard Mini USB connectors, especially cheap ones, don't fit
as snugly and securely in HTC ExtUSB sockets as ExtUSB connectors.
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Justin
2010-08-13 18:34:24 UTC
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Post by John Navas
Although the latest HTC handsets use a standard Micro USB connection,
some earlier HTC handsets (e.g., T-Mobile myTouch 3G, aka HTC Magic)
used a proprietary HTC "ExtUSB" connection.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extusb#Proprietary_connectors_and_formats>
Although ExtUSB cables tend to be harder to find, with fewer varieties,
and more expensive than standard USB cables, the ExtUSB connector is
backward compatible with Mini USB, which means a standard Mini USB cable
will work for charge and sync functions. The extra pins in ExtUSB are
only for (analog) audio and video.
Caveat: Standard Mini USB connectors, especially cheap ones, don't fit
as snugly and securely in HTC ExtUSB sockets as ExtUSB connectors.
Mini or micro USB?

The incredible had a weird shaped port, but micro USB fits it...
John Navas
2010-08-13 20:05:34 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:34:24 +0000 (UTC), Justin
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
Although the latest HTC handsets use a standard Micro USB
connection,
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
some earlier HTC handsets (e.g., T-Mobile myTouch 3G, aka HTC Magic)
used a proprietary HTC "ExtUSB" connection.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extusb#Proprietary_connectors_and_formats
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
Although ExtUSB cables tend to be harder to find, with fewer
varieties,
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
and more expensive than standard USB cables, the ExtUSB connector is
backward compatible with Mini USB, which means a standard Mini USB cable
will work for charge and sync functions. The extra pins in
ExtUSB are
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
only for (analog) audio and video.
Caveat: Standard Mini USB connectors, especially cheap ones,
don't fit
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
as snugly and securely in HTC ExtUSB sockets as ExtUSB connectors.
Mini or micro USB?
The incredible had a weird shaped port, but micro USB fits it...
Mini (not Micro)

--
John
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John Navas
2010-08-15 15:16:23 UTC
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For all of you who agree that gaming on the Android has thus far been
nothing to write about, there’s some good news at last. Sony Ericsson,
has a ‘gaming smartphone’ in the works which will also revolutionize
Google’s operating system (Android!) as you know it.

...

The device has been described as a hybrid of the Samsung Captivate and
the PSP Go – which basically means that it is a landscape slider in
terms of form factor and has game controls instead of the conventional
QWERTY keypad.

MORE:
<http://blogote.com/2010/android/gaming-smartphone-sony-ericsson-with-android-3-0.html>
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John Navas
2010-08-15 15:22:27 UTC
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Oracle Corp.'s legal action against Google Inc. reverberated through
Silicon Valley, prompting fears that court battles over Java software
may spread beyond cellphones to other tech sectors.

The suit filed by Oracle Thursday alleges Google infringed patents and
copyrights through its use of Java software in Android, the free Google
operating system that has become a hit in the latest smartphones. The
suit seeks damages and an injunction.

MORE:
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703321004575427710931993950.html>
John Navas
2010-08-16 16:59:26 UTC
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Apple has recently hired Benjamin Vigier as its new product manager for
mobile commerce. According to LinkedIn, Vigier joined Apple in July
2010. He is an expert in near field communications (NFC), working in the
field since 2004.

His most recent position was as a product manager for mFoundry, a mobile
wallet, payment and NFC at US mobile payments specialist. There he
conceived and managed both the PayPal Mobile service and Starbucks'
barcode-based mobile payments service.

He was also responsible for the development of mobile wallet
applications for two top US mobile network operators and an NFC wallet
application for a top three US bank.

MORE:
<http://www.examiner.com/tech-gear-in-san-francisco/apple-hires-near-field-communications-nfc-expert-mobile-commerce-coming-soon-to-iphone-1>
or <http://goo.gl/6njz>
Larry
2010-08-17 03:16:00 UTC
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Post by John Navas
Apple has recently hired Benjamin Vigier as its new product manager
for mobile commerce. According to LinkedIn, Vigier joined Apple in
July 2010. He is an expert in near field communications (NFC), working
in the field since 2004.
His most recent position was as a product manager for mFoundry, a
mobile wallet, payment and NFC at US mobile payments specialist. There
he conceived and managed both the PayPal Mobile service and Starbucks'
barcode-based mobile payments service.
He was also responsible for the development of mobile wallet
applications for two top US mobile network operators and an NFC wallet
application for a top three US bank.
<http://www.examiner.com/tech-gear-in-san-francisco/apple-hires-near-fi
eld-communications-nfc-expert-mobile-commerce-coming-soon-to-iphone-1>
or <http://goo.gl/6njz>
Will Ipad/Iphone owners all have to have chips injected into their necks
before the goddamned shitphones will dial out?

That's coming, people.....just wait. You read it here, first!
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Larry
News
2010-08-17 12:03:32 UTC
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Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
Apple has recently hired Benjamin Vigier as its new product manager
for mobile commerce. According to LinkedIn, Vigier joined Apple in
July 2010. He is an expert in near field communications (NFC), working
in the field since 2004.
His most recent position was as a product manager for mFoundry, a
mobile wallet, payment and NFC at US mobile payments specialist. There
he conceived and managed both the PayPal Mobile service and Starbucks'
barcode-based mobile payments service.
He was also responsible for the development of mobile wallet
applications for two top US mobile network operators and an NFC wallet
application for a top three US bank.
<http://www.examiner.com/tech-gear-in-san-francisco/apple-hires-near-fi
eld-communications-nfc-expert-mobile-commerce-coming-soon-to-iphone-1>
or <http://goo.gl/6njz>
Will Ipad/Iphone owners all have to have chips injected into their necks
before the goddamned shitphones will dial out?
That's coming, people.....just wait. You read it here, first!
Watch the fanbois willingly line up for 'em.
George Kerby
2010-08-17 13:24:38 UTC
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On 8/17/10 7:03 AM, in article
Post by News
Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
Apple has recently hired Benjamin Vigier as its new product manager
for mobile commerce. According to LinkedIn, Vigier joined Apple in
July 2010. He is an expert in near field communications (NFC), working
in the field since 2004.
His most recent position was as a product manager for mFoundry, a
mobile wallet, payment and NFC at US mobile payments specialist. There
he conceived and managed both the PayPal Mobile service and Starbucks'
barcode-based mobile payments service.
He was also responsible for the development of mobile wallet
applications for two top US mobile network operators and an NFC wallet
application for a top three US bank.
<http://www.examiner.com/tech-gear-in-san-francisco/apple-hires-near-fi
eld-communications-nfc-expert-mobile-commerce-coming-soon-to-iphone-1>
or <http://goo.gl/6njz>
Will Ipad/Iphone owners all have to have chips injected into their necks
before the goddamned shitphones will dial out?
That's coming, people.....just wait. You read it here, first!
Watch the fanbois willingly line up for 'em.
You too. STAT!!!
Justin
2010-08-17 13:57:36 UTC
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Post by News
Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
Apple has recently hired Benjamin Vigier as its new product manager
for mobile commerce. According to LinkedIn, Vigier joined Apple in
July 2010. He is an expert in near field communications (NFC), working
in the field since 2004.
His most recent position was as a product manager for mFoundry, a
mobile wallet, payment and NFC at US mobile payments specialist. There
he conceived and managed both the PayPal Mobile service and Starbucks'
barcode-based mobile payments service.
He was also responsible for the development of mobile wallet
applications for two top US mobile network operators and an NFC wallet
application for a top three US bank.
<http://www.examiner.com/tech-gear-in-san-francisco/apple-hires-near-fi
eld-communications-nfc-expert-mobile-commerce-coming-soon-to-iphone-1>
or <http://goo.gl/6njz>
Will Ipad/Iphone owners all have to have chips injected into their necks
before the goddamned shitphones will dial out?
That's coming, people.....just wait. You read it here, first!
Watch the fanbois willingly line up for 'em.
Wasn't this a Futurama episode recently?
Steve Sobol
2010-08-17 19:22:56 UTC
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Post by Justin
Post by News
Post by Larry
That's coming, people.....just wait. You read it here, first!
Watch the fanbois willingly line up for 'em.
Wasn't this a Futurama episode recently?
Sure was; "Attack of the Killer App."

It was the second brand-new episode of the season.

--Steve (Futurama geek)
--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
***@JustThe.net
George Kerby
2010-08-17 13:24:07 UTC
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Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
Apple has recently hired Benjamin Vigier as its new product manager
for mobile commerce. According to LinkedIn, Vigier joined Apple in
July 2010. He is an expert in near field communications (NFC), working
in the field since 2004.
His most recent position was as a product manager for mFoundry, a
mobile wallet, payment and NFC at US mobile payments specialist. There
he conceived and managed both the PayPal Mobile service and Starbucks'
barcode-based mobile payments service.
He was also responsible for the development of mobile wallet
applications for two top US mobile network operators and an NFC wallet
application for a top three US bank.
<http://www.examiner.com/tech-gear-in-san-francisco/apple-hires-near-fi
eld-communications-nfc-expert-mobile-commerce-coming-soon-to-iphone-1>
or <http://goo.gl/6njz>
Will Ipad/Iphone owners all have to have chips injected into their necks
before the goddamned shitphones will dial out?
That's coming, people.....just wait. You read it here, first!
Get down to the Waffle House and grab all the tinfoil the gals will let you
have, Lar. STAT!!!
John Navas
2010-08-16 17:12:11 UTC
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And a third of iPhone owners are waiting for carrier choice to upgrade
smartphone, says survey

More than half of all Verizon subscribers would likely buy an iPhone if
Apple's device was supported by their current provider, a recent survey
of U.S. consumers claimed.

According to Michigan-based market research firm Morpace, 51% of current
Verizon subscribers said they were either "somewhat likely" or "very
likely" to purchase an iPhone if Verizon offered Apple's smartphone. The
results were based on a poll of 1,000 American consumers conducted from
July 15 to July 20.

Morpace's results were nearly identical to those collected last May by
ChangeWave, a research company that specializes in forecasting future
spending trends. ChangeWave's poll of more than 4,000 U.S. consumers
found that 53% of Verizon subscribers were somewhat or very likely to
purchase an iPhone if the carrier obtained rights to the device.

MORE:
<http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180739/Most_Verizon_customers_likely_to_buy_Apple_iPhone?taxonomyId=15>
or <http://goo.gl/aCgA>
Larry
2010-08-17 03:10:08 UTC
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Post by John Navas
More than half of all Verizon subscribers would likely buy an iPhone if
Apple's device was supported by their current provider, a recent survey
of U.S. consumers claimed.
Horseshit. Most Verizon customers don't even have smartphones or the whole
damned system would already be on its knees!

Most of the Verizon customers have sellphones.
--
http://www.energyradio.jo/ English hiphop station in Ammon, Jordan?!
Larry
John Navas
2010-08-19 02:39:03 UTC
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Look out, Sprint: your $100 Unlimited Everything plan might not be a
unique selling point for too much longer.

People in San Diego and Los Angeles, California recently started
receiving offers to nab Verizon’s National Talk and Text plan — usually
a $90 per-month affair — for just $70 bucks as part of a regional test.
Paired with Verizon’s $30 unlimited data plan, that brings the cost for
unlimited text, talk, and data down to $100 bucks a month, matching it
feature-for-feature and dollar-for-dollar with Sprint’s offering.

MORE:
<http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/08/18/verizon-testing-unlimited-texttalkdata-plans-for-100-in-select-markets/>

COMMENT: Would seem to contradict the Internet rumors posted here.
John Navas
2010-08-20 16:12:20 UTC
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Smartphones and modems are about to get faster mobile broadband
connections -- 14.4M bps (bits per second) and 42M bps, repectively --
using HSPA+ (High Speed Packet Access).

In the shadow of the 4G battle between LTE (Long-Term Evolution) and
WiMax, a growing number of operators have or are about to roll roll out
HSPA+ networks. There were 58 live HSPA+ networks in operation at the
beginning of August, with a further 43 local operators having made
commitments to migrate to the technology soon, according to market
research company Wireless Intelligence, the independent research arm of
industry organization GSM Association.

Modems that can take advantage of HSPA+ speeds have been around since
the beginning of last year, and now smartphones that can do the same are
getting closer to launch.

On Wednesday, T-Mobile put out a teaser site to promote the upcoming
Android-based G2 smartphone, which will be the first smartphone designed
to run on its new HSPA+ network, according to the operator. T-Mobile
didn't announce when the phone will start shipping, but it will share
more information in the coming weeks, it said.

Another Android-based smartphone with a mobile broadband connection that
should leave existing phones in the dust is Huawei's U8800. The phone
was first announced at Mobile World in February, and is scheduled to
become commercially available during the third quarter, Huawei said at
the time.

...

HSPA+ will modems will still be faster, as they already offer
theoretical speeds at up to 21M bps, and will increase the lead as the
first 42M bps arrive later this year.

MORE:
<http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/203762/faster_hspa_smartphones_modems_coming_soon.html>
or <http://goo.gl/L64Z>
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John Navas
2010-08-20 16:16:42 UTC
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FINNISH PHONE MAKER Nokia's N9 smartphone prototype has been spotted in
China and it is likely to be the first smartphone to run the outfit's
own Meego OS. But it's going face real competition from the upcoming
Blackberry Bold and HTC Desire smartphones, so it's going to have to be
pretty good to gain much traction.

Unfortunately no specifications for the Nokia N9 have been leaked, only
some photos of the device to tease us at the Chinese language site
Baidu. <http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=855903283>

Nokia looks like it is going to put a slide-out Qwerty keyboard on the
N9 and the first impression of it is that looks a lot like a
miniaturised Macbook.

Overall, the device looks like it's going to be rather large, with a
screen size comparable to the Samsung Galaxy S.

The MeeGo platform is likely to be key to the success or failure of the
N9 and Nokia has all but pinned its hopes on the OS for the high end
market. Not much has been seen of the user interface, and Nokia is going
to have to work hard to attract users who have grown accustomed to
smartphones running Android or IOS4.

MORE:
<http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1729021/nokia-n9-smartphone-rumours-tip>
John Navas
2010-08-20 16:51:49 UTC
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Android licensees risk the WinMobile Disease - analyst

... In Q2 2007, Nokia pocketed 63 per cent of profits; Apple and RIM
just seven per cent between them. Wind forward three years, and Apple
and RIM snag 65 per cent of the profits, largely at the expense of
Nokia, but helped by the collapse of Sony Ericsson and Motorola, who are
a tiny shadow of their former selves.

There's a conclusion to be drawn for Google and the Android licensees,
thinks Asymco. None of the three leaders are likely to abandon their
in-house platforms for Android, it's either inferior (to iOS) or (as
with BlackBerry OS, Symbian or Meego) switching simply isn't worth it.
So Android is left to target the very manufacturers who have been
squeezed. And that in turn leaves them with some tricky choices to make.

Android is becoming a commodity platform, so they need to differentiate
themselves from the rest of the Android rabble: we've seen Sony
Ericsson, HTC and Motorola invest heavily in their own UIs. But because
Android is a commodity platform, this investment isn’t worth it.

MORE: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/20/asymco_mobile_profits/>

COMMENT: I think this is a seriously flawed analysis that overlooks how
well Motorola has come roaring back.
--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]
John Navas
2010-08-21 22:42:35 UTC
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Speedtest.net Android [T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack] Result

Download: 2178 kbps
Upload: 854 kbps
Ping: 130 ms

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John Navas
2010-08-22 02:14:29 UTC
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:42:35 -0700, in
Post by John Navas
Speedtest.net Android [T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack] Result
Download: 2178 kbps
Upload: 854 kbps
Ping: 130 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/10268016.png
MORE DATA (ROUGH GRID IN NORTHEAST SAN FRANCISCO)
BOUNDED ON SOUTH BY BROADWAY, ON WEST BY THE PRESIDIO:

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John Navas
2010-08-22 06:07:23 UTC
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p.s. The Speed Test app recorded the GPS coordinates for these tests,
but doesn't output them, and I was too lazy to copy them all manually.


On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:14:29 -0700, in
Post by John Navas
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:42:35 -0700, in
Post by John Navas
Speedtest.net Android [T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack] Result
Download: 2178 kbps
Upload: 854 kbps
Ping: 130 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/10268016.png
MORE DATA (ROUGH GRID IN NORTHEAST SAN FRANCISCO)
Download: 941 kbps
Upload: 837 kbps
Ping: 146 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/10331447.png
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Download: 997 kbps
Upload: 573 kbps
Ping: 124 ms
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Ping: 140 ms
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--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]
John Navas
2010-08-30 03:35:28 UTC
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OBJECTIVE: TEST FOR AMOUNT OF SPEED DEGRADATION FROM HOLDING ANTENNA
SUMMARY: No significant degradation found


Test device: T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack (aka HTC Magic)
Antenna: Internal, located in "chin" at the bottom

Location: San Francisco Marina District (37.79979, -122.44476)
Sitting in a car with the windows rolled up
Signal strength: -89 dBm


DEVICE HELD NORMALLY IN MY LEFT HAND:

Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:42:47 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1815 kbps
Upload: 844 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
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Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:43:18 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1723 kbps
Upload: 857 kbps
Ping: 139 ms
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Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:45:14 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1809 kbps
Upload: 839 kbps
Ping: 147 ms
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WITH MY LEFT HAND SMOTHERING THE ANTENNA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE:

Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:48:54 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1642 kbps
Upload: 773 kbps
Ping: 152 ms
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Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:20 pm
Connection Type: Utms
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Ping: 140 ms
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Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:42 pm
Connection Type: Utms
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Ping: 138 ms
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Secular Humorist
2010-08-30 16:36:03 UTC
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Post by John Navas
OBJECTIVE: TEST FOR AMOUNT OF SPEED DEGRADATION FROM HOLDING ANTENNA
SUMMARY: No significant degradation found
Test device: T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack (aka HTC Magic)
Antenna: Internal, located in "chin" at the bottom
Location: San Francisco Marina District (37.79979, -122.44476)
Sitting in a car with the windows rolled up
Signal strength: -89 dBm
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:42:47 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1815 kbps
Upload: 844 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11026985.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:43:18 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1723 kbps
Upload: 857 kbps
Ping: 139 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027029.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:45:14 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1809 kbps
Upload: 839 kbps
Ping: 147 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027139.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:48:54 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1642 kbps
Upload: 773 kbps
Ping: 152 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027408.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:20 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1636 kbps
Upload: 794 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027439.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:42 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1634 kbps
Upload: 787 kbps
Ping: 138 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027457.png
Have you considered finding a nice gal to...date?
John Navas
2010-08-30 16:48:50 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:36:03 -0400, in
Post by Secular Humorist
Post by John Navas
OBJECTIVE: TEST FOR AMOUNT OF SPEED DEGRADATION FROM HOLDING ANTENNA
SUMMARY: No significant degradation found
Test device: T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack (aka HTC Magic)
Antenna: Internal, located in "chin" at the bottom
Location: San Francisco Marina District (37.79979, -122.44476)
Sitting in a car with the windows rolled up
Signal strength: -89 dBm
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:42:47 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1815 kbps
Upload: 844 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11026985.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:43:18 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1723 kbps
Upload: 857 kbps
Ping: 139 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027029.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:45:14 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1809 kbps
Upload: 839 kbps
Ping: 147 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027139.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:48:54 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1642 kbps
Upload: 773 kbps
Ping: 152 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027408.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:20 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1636 kbps
Upload: 794 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027439.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:42 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1634 kbps
Upload: 787 kbps
Ping: 138 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027457.png
Have you considered finding a nice gal to...date?
I know of no (worthwhile) gal that would settle for a 10 minute window
of time -- do you? ;)
--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]
George Kerby
2010-08-30 23:35:22 UTC
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Post by John Navas
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:36:03 -0400, in
Post by Secular Humorist
Post by John Navas
OBJECTIVE: TEST FOR AMOUNT OF SPEED DEGRADATION FROM HOLDING ANTENNA
SUMMARY: No significant degradation found
Test device: T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack (aka HTC Magic)
Antenna: Internal, located in "chin" at the bottom
Location: San Francisco Marina District (37.79979, -122.44476)
Sitting in a car with the windows rolled up
Signal strength: -89 dBm
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:42:47 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1815 kbps
Upload: 844 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11026985.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:43:18 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1723 kbps
Upload: 857 kbps
Ping: 139 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027029.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:45:14 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1809 kbps
Upload: 839 kbps
Ping: 147 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027139.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:48:54 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1642 kbps
Upload: 773 kbps
Ping: 152 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027408.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:20 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1636 kbps
Upload: 794 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027439.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:42 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1634 kbps
Upload: 787 kbps
Ping: 138 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027457.png
Have you considered finding a nice gal to...date?
I know of no (worthwhile) gal that would settle for a 10 minute window
of time -- do you? ;)
"Ten minutes"?!? You flatter yourself...
George Kerby
2010-08-30 23:34:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Secular Humorist
Post by John Navas
OBJECTIVE: TEST FOR AMOUNT OF SPEED DEGRADATION FROM HOLDING ANTENNA
SUMMARY: No significant degradation found
Test device: T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack (aka HTC Magic)
Antenna: Internal, located in "chin" at the bottom
Location: San Francisco Marina District (37.79979, -122.44476)
Sitting in a car with the windows rolled up
Signal strength: -89 dBm
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:42:47 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1815 kbps
Upload: 844 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11026985.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:43:18 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1723 kbps
Upload: 857 kbps
Ping: 139 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027029.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:45:14 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1809 kbps
Upload: 839 kbps
Ping: 147 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027139.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:48:54 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1642 kbps
Upload: 773 kbps
Ping: 152 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027408.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:20 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1636 kbps
Upload: 794 kbps
Ping: 140 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027439.png
Test Date: Aug 29, 2010 7:49:42 pm
Connection Type: Utms
Download: 1634 kbps
Upload: 787 kbps
Ping: 138 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/11027457.png
Have you considered finding a nice gal to...date?
NavASS is not into that.
John Navas
2010-09-07 16:39:52 UTC
Permalink
Typical T-Mobile EGPRS(EDGE) speed (handset in 2G only mode):
Speedtest.net Android [T-Mobile myTouch 3G 3.5mm Jack]

Test Date: Sep 7, 2010 8:56:33 am
Connection Type: Edge
Download: 211 kbps
Upload: 116 kbps
Ping: 257 ms
A detailed image for this result can be found here:
Loading Image...

Test Date: Sep 7, 2010 8:57:49 am
Connection Type: Edge
Download: 205 kbps
Upload: 119 kbps
Ping: 298 ms
A detailed image for this result can be found here:
Loading Image...
John Navas
2010-08-24 20:26:55 UTC
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It's official: Samsung will unveil its would-be iPad beater, now called
the Galaxy Tab - sounds like a fizzy drink - just ahead of the IFA
consumer electronics show early next month.

According to a vid just posted on the Samsung website, the 7in Tab will
run Android 2.2, do video calls - though the only apparent camera is on
the back - support Adobe Flash for a "full web" experience, have e-book
reading software and do "HD movie playback" - 720p, presumably, given
the physical size of the screen.

No other spec data has been provided, so we'll have to wait until the 2
September launch for that.

MORE: <http://galaxytab.samsungmobile.com/>
<http://www.reghardware.com/2010/08/24/samsung_galaxy_tab/>
--
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?
John Navas
2010-08-28 03:40:17 UTC
Permalink
Al Moschner probably wouldn't blame you if you've never heard of Cricket
Wireless. But if he has his way, you'll know about his company soon
enough.

As the executive vice president and chief operating officer of the
nation's seventh-largest wireless carrier, Moschner directs marketing
and branding efforts for Cricket's products and services. A subsidiary
of Leap Wireless International founded in 1999, Cricket serves 5.3
million prepaid customers in select communities in 25 states, or about a
third of the country. Though that focus has served Cricket well over the
past year--total revenues for parent company Leap Wireless increased
10.2 percent from the second quarter of 2009 to the same period this
year--the carrier isn't standing still. Even as it stays true to its
prepaid roots, it is embarking on plans to attract new customers, expand
into smartphone content services, and develop the network necessary to
become a national carrier.

Last Tuesday, just before Cricket released its first smartphone, the
Sanyo Zio, Moschner dropped by CNET's San Francisco offices to talk
about how his company and the wireless industry is changing. We covered
a range of topics, including the growth in prepaid, an impending music
service, cheaper data plans, and, of course, a CDMA iPhone.

MORE: <http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20014745-85.html>
John Navas
2010-09-04 20:07:36 UTC
Permalink
Also boots Linux from the No. 3 spot in OS usage online

Computerworld - Apple's iOS mobile operating system is now the
third-most popular platform on the Internet, with a share nearly six
times larger than Android's, a Web measurement company said Wednesday.

Collectively the devices that run iOS -- the iPhone, the iPod Touch and
the iPad -- accounted for 1.1% of all hardware on the Internet last
month, more than enough to shove Linux off its perch as the third-place
operating system on the Web.

For the month of August, Linux fell to a 0.85% share, the third month in
a row that the open-source operating system lost ground. Windows and
Apple's Mac OS were the No. 1 and No. 2 operating systems on the Web,
with 91.3% and 5%, respectively.

"It's something to take note of when a mobile operating system passes
something that's been around forever," said Vince Vizzaccaro, a Net
Applications vice president, talking about iOS overtaking Linux.
"Mobile's growth curve is strong, and mobile is becoming quite a
phenomenon on the Internet."

Net Applications' numbers don't reflect devices sold or operating
systems licensed or installed, but they do show how much browsing people
do using specific hardware and operating systems. And clearly, mobile
users take to the Web.

"When you combine all the different devices, mobile has a 2.6% share,"
said Vizzaccaro. "That's massive when you think about it."

As a platform, iOS has the biggest chunk of the total mobile usage
share, easily beating rivals like Google's Android and Nokia's Symbian.

Android devices made up just 0.2% of the operating systems that powered
browsers Net Applications tracked last month. "Whatever the sales are,
we're seeing iOS totally dominate the market on the Web," Vizzaccaro
said. "iOS has nearly a 6:1 advantage over Android."

MORE:
<http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9183298/Apple_s_iOS_beats_Android_6_1_on_the_Web>
Larry
2010-09-04 23:02:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Windows and
Apple's Mac OS were the No. 1 and No. 2 operating systems on the Web,
with 91.3% and 5%, respectively.
Looks like Flash will be around a long, long time. I didn't know the
numbers were this lopsided. I must be watching too much Reality
Distortion Field on iphone/ipad newsgroups.....(c;]

John, have you got any information on the distribution inside the 91.3%?
How much XP compared to how much Win7? From M$'s recent attitude to
continue to sell XP on netbooks, I'm guessing most computers on the net
are STILL good ol', reliable Win XP boxes. There must be billions of
them, plodding along through the average internet pinhole "broadband"
modems....
George Kerby
2010-09-04 23:29:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
Windows and
Apple's Mac OS were the No. 1 and No. 2 operating systems on the Web,
with 91.3% and 5%, respectively.
Looks like Flash will be around a long, long time. I didn't know the
numbers were this lopsided. I must be watching too much Reality
Distortion Field on iphone/ipad newsgroups.....(c;]
Tell ya what, Lar. Don't tell anyone I did this - but, I can make you an
*EXCELLENT* deal and you will be the exclusive distributor in the Southeast:

**Buggy Whip franchise**

YES! You will control the Market from N. C. through MS, including ALL of FL,
can you believe that?!?

All I need is bank routing and your account number. A offer that is only
once in a lifetime. You will be an absolute hit at the Waffle House,
Guaranteed, those waitresses will go wild!!!!
John Navas
2010-09-05 04:28:13 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:02:28 +0000, in
Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
Windows and
Apple's Mac OS were the No. 1 and No. 2 operating systems on the Web,
with 91.3% and 5%, respectively.
Looks like Flash will be around a long, long time. I didn't know the
numbers were this lopsided. I must be watching too much Reality
Distortion Field on iphone/ipad newsgroups.....(c;]
John, have you got any information on the distribution inside the 91.3%?
How much XP compared to how much Win7? From M$'s recent attitude to
continue to sell XP on netbooks, I'm guessing most computers on the net
are STILL good ol', reliable Win XP boxes. There must be billions of
them, plodding along through the average internet pinhole "broadband"
modems....
"Windows 7 Tops Vista, But Windows XP Still Dominates"
<http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=13300GBG8GXC>
Larry
2010-09-05 05:17:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
"Windows 7 Tops Vista, But Windows XP Still Dominates"
<http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=13300GBG8GXC>
Thanks. It's interesting to note VISTA, all by itself, has 3 times the
market of all Apple computers, combined.....(c;]

I doubt anyone will ever care if they run Flash or not......
John Navas
2010-09-05 15:21:21 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:17:51 +0000, in
Post by Larry
Post by John Navas
"Windows 7 Tops Vista, But Windows XP Still Dominates"
<http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=13300GBG8GXC>
Thanks. It's interesting to note VISTA, all by itself, has 3 times the
market of all Apple computers, combined.....(c;]
I doubt anyone will ever care if they run Flash or not......
Not in the computer world, but lack of Flash does matter in the mobile
world thanks to the great success of mobile iDevices, and the mobile
world is where the market action is currently.

It's an interesting battle. I'm _not_ a fan of Flash, but it's
essentially TOGIT (the Only Game in Town) on the Web until HTML5 is
established.

The basic issue is that pretty much _all_ current mobile devices
(Android included) cannot do Flash or WebM (derived from MKV), giving a
huge advantage to MPEG-4.

The related battle is between MPEG-4 (backed by Apple and the closed
Internet) and VP8/WebM (backed by Google and the open Internet). What
VP8/WebM needs but lacks is clear superiority and wide support -- MPEG-4
is awfully good (especially with a top quality encoder) and widely
supported.

Ironically, one of the things holding back WebM is the illicit market --
hackers are still mostly clinging to MPEG-4 ASP (Xvid, DivX) with MP3 in
the ancient AVI container format, plus a relatively small amount of
Theora and MPEG-4 AVC in the MKV container format. Hackers were a big
factor in the success of MP3, and might well do the same for WebM if
they get solidly behind it.

Much as I'd like to see WebM succeed, my own bet (FWIW) is on MPEG-4.
--
John

"Facts? We ain't got no facts. We don't need no facts. I don't have
to show you any stinking facts!" [with apologies to John Huston]
John Navas
2010-09-05 19:59:35 UTC
Permalink
...

The August Statistics from the Quancast show that Apple has saved itself
for the time being but Mobile web use of iOS devices (excluding iPad)
dropped significantly remaining at 56 percent. While RIM and "other"
devices dropped down to 9 percent and 10 percent respectively. Android
is the only progressive mobile operating service to jump up 2 percent to
reach 25 percent, its best achievement since November 2009.

The yearly view reveals that Android has now gain 18.6 percent in web
consumption sharemaking Apple's iOS device suffer a decline (down 11.4
percent). RIM was able to maintain consistency and lost only 1.6 percent
of its web market share in same span of time.

Quancast is expected to reveal the August web consumption details next
week. However last month's statistics show that Apple iPhone topped the
chart with 36 percent. But the company's iPod line of devices was down
to 20 percent. HTC an Android vendor for the first time appeared on the
chart with 11 percent of total smartphone web consumption and Motorola
was at 10 percent.

Over the past year Motorola has grown more than any other smartphone
manufacturer. Apple iPhone and iPod have given up 7 percent and 3.4
percent of their mobile web share respectively, while Motorola and HTC
are topping the yearly growth of 10 percent and 3.9 percent
respectively.

MORE:
<http://www.lanewsmonitor.com/news/Android-Mobile-Web-Market-Steadily-Rising-1283715157/>
nospam
2010-09-05 20:03:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
The August Statistics from the Quancast show that Apple has saved itself
for the time being but Mobile web use of iOS devices (excluding iPad)
dropped significantly remaining at 56 percent.
why exclude ipad? its an ios device.

they're obviously trying to skew the results. what is the web usage
when you include ipad, which according to reports, uses *more* data
than iphone users do?
Post by John Navas
While RIM and "other"
devices dropped down to 9 percent and 10 percent respectively. Android
is the only progressive mobile operating service to jump up 2 percent to
reach 25 percent, its best achievement since November 2009.
are they excluding any android devices?
Post by John Navas
The yearly view reveals that Android has now gain 18.6 percent in web
consumption sharemaking Apple's iOS device suffer a decline (down 11.4
percent). RIM was able to maintain consistency and lost only 1.6 percent
of its web market share in same span of time.
their view is bullshit because you don't get to pick and choose which
devices count and which do not, unless you have an agenda.
John Navas
2010-09-06 18:38:20 UTC
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The Torch is fizzling. Now what?

The Torch was Research In Motion's (RIMM) bid to return to the cutting
edge of smartphones, a market that is at once a rare corner of the
economy where consumers are eager to spend and perhaps the most
intensely competitive in terms of tech innovation. Every few months,
either Apple (AAPL) or Google (GOOG) announces some new improvement to
their smartphones. Keeping up with them is all but impossible.

And that's not good news for Research In Motion. For years the company
was the strongest brand in smartphones, thanks to the BlackBerry. The
early generations of BlackBerrys were ubiquitous at business gatherings
and airports, as their owners frenetically thumbed out emails on the go.
Jokes about CrackBerrys grew so commonplace they became tiresome.

Then came the iPhone and the Android phones, with their touchscreens and
their cornucopias of apps that could do things like edit movies on the
fly, practice piano chords and even create works of art if you needed a
break from those emails. But the BlackBerry clung to its advantages: Its
signature keypad was much easier to type on than iPhone's touchscreen,
and Verizon offered two-for-the-price of one deals to entice consumers.

Plummeting Market Share

That wasn't enough, however, to keep RIM's share of the U.S. smartphone
market from falling to 28% in the second quarter, from 37% a year
earlier. Verizon also sells Android phones, and Android's share of the
smartphone market surged to 33% last quarter, displacing BlackBerry as
the best-selling smartphone operating system. Half of BlackBerry owners
surveyed by Nielsen were ready to jump to the iPhone or an Android
phone.

But for that other half, BlackBerry loyalty remained strong. Many of
them still preferred BlackBerrys for email. Just as important, most IT
departments preferred supporting BlackBerrys over newer, perhaps less
secure phones. Then iPhones and Android phones started to be adopted as
ideal business phones. And social media became as important as email for
many people.

So RIM began introducing touchscreens to keeps its customers happy. But
it turned out many wanted touchscreens and the old tactile keypads, So
RIM gave them that in the Torch -- it was designed to be the best of
both worlds. Its BlackBerry 6 operating software would appeal to all the
BlackBerry brand loyalists who wanted a slicker touchscreen and faster
web browsing of iPhones and Android phones, plus the old familiar
keyboard if you slid it out.

But the Torch isn't a game-changer the way the iPhone was, it's just
another player in a game whose rules Apple -- and increasingly Google --
are writing. Its early sales were respectable: 150,000 in the first
weekend of launch. That number is overshadowed by the 1.7 million iPhone
4s that sold in its first three days on the market.

[SNIP]

... RIM's insistence on designing the BlackBerry as a business phone
isn't working anymore. In fact, it's hurting RIM because smartphones
designed for consumers are taking over. The weird thing is, as a
consumer phone, the Torch is actually very good. But in the
hyper-competitive smartphone market, very good isn't good enough
anymore. You have to blow people away just to stay alive.


MORE:
<http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/blackberry-torch-research-in-motion/19621129/>
Justin
2010-09-07 00:51:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
The Torch is fizzling. Now what?
You know, you can start whole new threads instead of using reply
to start them and having references 10 miles long.
John Navas
2010-09-07 04:20:07 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:51:15 +0000 (UTC), in
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
The Torch is fizzling. Now what?
You know, you can start whole new threads instead of using reply
to start them and having references 10 miles long.
True, but a bit more work, and a good newsreader (like Forte Agent) will
see the Subject change as a new thread.
--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]
Justin
2010-09-07 05:45:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:51:15 +0000 (UTC), in
Post by Justin
Post by John Navas
The Torch is fizzling. Now what?
You know, you can start whole new threads instead of using reply
to start them and having references 10 miles long.
True, but a bit more work, and a good newsreader (like Forte Agent) will
see the Subject change as a new thread.
Why? Subject change does not define a new thread.

In fact, many times subjects are changed for new sub threads
John Navas
2010-09-10 15:47:07 UTC
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1. AILING HIGH-END PHONE PORTFOLIO
2. IMPLOSION IN U.S. MARKET
3. "OLD NOKIA" LEADERSHIP
4. FAILED SERVICES PUSH
5. EXPOSURE TO THE CUT-THROAT TELECOM GEAR MARKET

MORE: <http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6892KB20100910>
John Navas
2010-09-10 15:52:16 UTC
Permalink
Apple's newly revised developer guidelines have given hope to the
creator of Google Voice for the iPhone, who believes his application now
has a good chance of being approved.

MORE:
<http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227400121&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
John Navas
2010-09-10 15:49:08 UTC
Permalink
Google's week just keeps on getting better.

Not only has it set the blogosphere buzzing with its post-Labor Day
Google Doodle Mystery and the Wednesday news event announcing Google
Instant, but now tech research company Gartner reports that Google's
Android will be in striking distance of Nokia's Symbian system for world
champion in mobile operating systems, leaping past Research in Motion's
Blackberry and Apple's iPhone iOS.

Gartner predicts that Android and Symbian together will account for
nearly 60 percent of mobile OS used by consumers by 2014. (Symbian's
2010 expected market share is 40.1 percent.) Gartner had earlier
foreseen the rise of Android to second place would take another two
years.

Silicon Alley Insider expressed surprise about the speed of Android's
ascension.

"It's been clear that this was coming for some time now — earlier this
year it was reported that Android was now second to Symbian in new
handset activation. Still, it's surprising to see Google catch up in
overall install base so quickly, considering the headstart of its
competitors."

Android has rocketed to an expected 17.7 percent share of the market in
2010, up from a mere 3.9 percent last year according to Gartner's
research. That puts the system just barely above Blackberry's 17.5
percent. Apple's iOS increased only slightly from 14.5 percent in 2009
to 15.4 percent this year.

A few factors are helping Android rise above the competition, including
the demise of the Symbian system.

MORE:
<http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/10/5084985-googles-android-to-zoom-past-blackberry-iphone>
or <http://goo.gl/XYXC>
John Navas
2010-09-10 15:50:49 UTC
Permalink
Google's week just keeps on getting better.

Not only has it set the blogosphere buzzing with its post-Labor Day
Google Doodle Mystery and the Wednesday news event announcing Google
Instant, but now tech research company Gartner reports that Google's
Android will be in striking distance of Nokia's Symbian system for world
champion in mobile operating systems, leaping past Research in Motion's
Blackberry and Apple's iPhone iOS.

Gartner predicts that Android and Symbian together will account for
nearly 60 percent of mobile OS used by consumers by 2014. (Symbian's
2010 expected market share is 40.1 percent.) Gartner had earlier
foreseen the rise of Android to second place would take another two
years.

Silicon Alley Insider expressed surprise about the speed of Android's
ascension.

"It's been clear that this was coming for some time now — earlier this
year it was reported that Android was now second to Symbian in new
handset activation. Still, it's surprising to see Google catch up in
overall install base so quickly, considering the headstart of its
competitors."

Android has rocketed to an expected 17.7 percent share of the market in
2010, up from a mere 3.9 percent last year according to Gartner's
research. That puts the system just barely above Blackberry's 17.5
percent. Apple's iOS increased only slightly from 14.5 percent in 2009
to 15.4 percent this year.

A few factors are helping Android rise above the competition, including
the demise of the Symbian system.

MORE:
<http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/10/5084985-googles-android-to-zoom-past-blackberry-iphone>
or <http://goo.gl/XYXC>
John Navas
2010-09-10 15:58:03 UTC
Permalink
JPMorgan Chase & Co. may soon let employees use iPhones for corporate
e-mail, making it an alternative to Research in Motion Ltd.’s BlackBerry
at the bank for the first time, two people familiar with the situation
said.

JPMorgan is testing the Apple Inc. device and smartphones based on
Google Inc.’s Android software, said the people, who didn’t want to be
named because the plans haven’t been made public. The bank is the
second-largest in the U.S. by assets and has about 220,000 employees
worldwide.

UBS AG, Switzerland’s biggest bank, said it is also considering allowing
its staff to use iPhones for company messaging as more of them opt for
the Apple product. UBS has more than 63,000 employees.

Apple and Google are making inroads in RIM’s traditional stronghold with
corporate customers, after their devices first caught on with consumers.
Standard Chartered Bank Plc said in May it’s switching from the
BlackBerry to the iPhone for employees and expects to have 15,000
distributed by year-end.

MORE:
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-10/jpmorgan-said-to-test-iphone-for-e-mail-as-more-bankers-bypass-blackberry.html>
or <http://goo.gl/3pdW>
John Navas
2010-10-05 17:15:22 UTC
Permalink
Google Inc.’s Android software has become the most popular operating
system in the U.S. among new smartphone buyers, passing the iPhone and
BlackBerry platforms, according to Nielsen Co.

Android was the top choice for U.S. consumers who bought a smartphone in
the past six months with Research In Motion Ltd.’s BlackBerry and Apple
Inc.’s iPhone tied for second place, Nielsen said.

MORE:
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-05/android-tops-iphone-blackberry-among-u-s-smartphone-buyers-nielsen-says.html>
John Navas
2010-11-04 14:42:03 UTC
Permalink
Google's Android operating system had a successful third quarter,
capturing about 44 percent of the U.S. smartphone market ahead of Apple
and Research in Motion, according to two reports.

NPD Group and Canalys released reports on Monday that said Android was
installed in 44 percent (NPD) and 43.6 percent (Canalys) of smartphones
shipped during the last quarter.

NPD said 44 percent of smartphones purchased in the third quarter were
Android-based, up 11 percent from the previous quarter. Apple came in
second with 23 percent, up 1 percent, follwed by RIM, which declined
from 28 percent to 22 percent to land in third place.

"Much of Android's quarterly share growth came at the expense of RIM,
rather than Apple," Ross Rubin, executive director of industry analysis
for NPD, said in a statement. "The HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid X, and
other new high-end Android devices have been gaining momentum at
carriers that traditionally have been strong RIM distributors, and the
recent introduction of the BlackBerry Torch has done little to stem the
tide."

MORE: <http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371865,00.asp>
John Navas
2010-11-12 19:44:43 UTC
Permalink
Android soared in Gartner's 3Q smartphone report to a 25.5 percent,
second-place-worldwide share, up from 17.2 percent last quarter.
Meanwhile, Android phones came out tops in Consumer Reports' latest
quality rankings, and also held their own with the iPhone and BlackBerry
phones in a SquareTrade study on smartphone reliability.

MORE:
<http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Gartner-3Q-2010-plus-Consumer-Reports-and-SquareTrade-studies/>
John Navas
2011-01-31 16:23:17 UTC
Permalink
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.

Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million in the final
quarter of 2010, pushing Nokia's Symbian down to second place with 31
million smartphones shipped.

MORE: <http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20030029-94.html>
George Kerby
2011-01-31 18:21:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million in the final
quarter of 2010, pushing Nokia's Symbian down to second place with 31
million smartphones shipped.
MORE: <http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20030029-94.html>
Screw "shipments". What about activations? Head to head at the AT&T store,
who sells both, iPhone outsells android threefold plus.
nospam
2011-01-31 17:29:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by George Kerby
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million in the final
quarter of 2010, pushing Nokia's Symbian down to second place with 31
million smartphones shipped.
MORE: <http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20030029-94.html>
Screw "shipments". What about activations? Head to head at the AT&T store,
who sells both, iPhone outsells android threefold plus.
yep, and verizon claims android sales have stagnated.

it also looks like 'shipments' are from manufacturer to retailer, not
to end user, according to other reports.

apple is activating 366k ios devices a day (as of a couple of weeks
ago) while google claims 300k android activations per day, from about a
month ago.
Justin
2011-01-31 18:48:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by nospam
Post by George Kerby
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million in the final
quarter of 2010, pushing Nokia's Symbian down to second place with 31
million smartphones shipped.
MORE: <http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20030029-94.html>
Screw "shipments". What about activations? Head to head at the AT&T store,
who sells both, iPhone outsells android threefold plus.
yep, and verizon claims android sales have stagnated.
it also looks like 'shipments' are from manufacturer to retailer, not
to end user, according to other reports.
apple is activating 366k ios devices a day (as of a couple of weeks
ago) while google claims 300k android activations per day, from about a
month ago.
How many of those 366k are ipods or ipads?

They aren't smart phones.
nospam
2011-01-31 17:55:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justin
Post by nospam
apple is activating 366k ios devices a day (as of a couple of weeks
ago) while google claims 300k android activations per day, from about a
month ago.
How many of those 366k are ipods or ipads?
They aren't smart phones.
so what? android activations also include tablets, such as the galaxy
tab.
Justin
2011-01-31 18:57:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by nospam
Post by Justin
Post by nospam
apple is activating 366k ios devices a day (as of a couple of weeks
ago) while google claims 300k android activations per day, from about a
month ago.
How many of those 366k are ipods or ipads?
They aren't smart phones.
so what? android activations also include tablets, such as the galaxy
tab.
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million
nospam
2011-01-31 18:06:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Post by nospam
Post by Justin
Post by nospam
apple is activating 366k ios devices a day (as of a couple of weeks
ago) while google claims 300k android activations per day, from about a
month ago.
How many of those 366k are ipods or ipads?
They aren't smart phones.
so what? android activations also include tablets, such as the galaxy
tab.
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million
android is a *platform*, not specific to phones, the same as ios.
Ted Nelson
2011-01-31 19:53:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million
but after Feb 10th, it will be half that, then after the iPad 2, half
again. android is a dead end except for a few geeks.
Ness-Net
2011-02-02 03:26:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million
but after Feb 10th, it will be half that, then after the iPad 2, half
again. android is a dead end except for a few geeks.

Do we have a new Oxy...?

Just as idiotic.
Todd Allcock
2011-02-03 04:44:39 UTC
Permalink
?"Ted Nelson" wrote in message news:4d471334$0$3036
Post by John Navas
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million
but after Feb 10th, it will be half that, then after the iPad 2, half
again. android is a dead end except for a few geeks.
Do we have a new Oxy...?
Just as idiotic.
Same old Oxy using one of his many socks...
Anonymous
2011-02-03 04:10:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ted Nelson
Post by John Navas
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million
but after Feb 10th, it will be half that, then after the iPad 2, half
again. android is a dead end except for a few geeks.
Hahhahahah.

Ok, Troll.
Ted Nelson
2011-01-31 19:52:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justin
Post by nospam
it also looks like 'shipments' are from manufacturer to retailer, not
to end user, according to other reports.
apple is activating 366k ios devices a day (as of a couple of weeks
ago) while google claims 300k android activations per day, from about a
month ago.
How many of those 366k are ipods or ipads?
They aren't smart phones.
it doesn't matter justin, the fact the iOS is being deployed in far
greater numbers is the point. everyone in this industry hates dealing
with android. google is already giving up on it, so it's going to end up
like linux with 1% share.
Steve Sobol
2011-01-31 23:32:44 UTC
Permalink
In article <4d4712e8$0$3036$***@news.qwest.net>, ***@rnelson.org
says...
Post by Ted Nelson
it doesn't matter justin, the fact the iOS is being deployed in far
greater numbers is the point. everyone in this industry hates dealing
with android. google is already giving up on it, so it's going to end up
like linux with 1% share.
I'm sure you have a link to this news, somewhere on the web.

I'm sure you'll be happy to share it with us.
--
Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
Apple Valley, CA
***@JustThe.net
Todd Allcock
2011-02-01 04:34:31 UTC
Permalink
On 1/31/11 10:23 AM, in article
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
Global shipments of Android-based phones hit 32.9 million in the final
quarter of 2010, pushing Nokia's Symbian down to second place with 31
million smartphones shipped.
MORE: <http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20030029-94.html>
Screw "shipments". What about activations? Head to head at the AT&T store,
who sells both, iPhone outsells android threefold plus.
iPhone loyalists can't have their cake and eat it too. If the AT&T
naysayers are to be believed (including our own "nospam,") AT&T is such a
lousy carrier iPhone users only put up with AT&T because it was the only
carrier that sold the iPhone, and they expect a mass exodus to Verizon
over the next two years as AT&T contracts expire. If this is true, why
in God's name would prospective Android buyers, who can use any carrier
they choose, willingly use the carrier iPhone users only use at a
figurative gunpoint?

Personally I don't subscribe to that theory, since I don't believe AT&T
is that bad. I find it interesting, however, that AT&T just
coincidentally sells a _far_ weaker lineup of Android (and Blackberry)
phones compared to Verizon. The more cynical among us might think AT&T
intentionally sabotaged their Android and Blackberry lineup so as to not
compete against their "flagship" smartphone. The less cynical might
assume the reason was that manufacturers might be more willing to market
their best devices through carriers other than AT&T knowing that AT&T has
put their proverbial eggs in one basket, and gives comparitively little
marketing support to other devices. Anecdotally, I've seen very few AT&T
Android phones "in the wild," but regularly see Verizon and T-Mobile
Android phones.

Objectively, when was the last time you remember seeing a TV ad for an
AT&T-branded Android phone? Conversely, how many Verizon Droid ads (and
iPhone) ads have you seen?


Frankly, it'll be interesting to see what Android and Blackberry phones
start showing up at AT&T after Verizon starts selling the iPhone.
Justin
2011-02-01 05:26:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Todd Allcock
Personally I don't subscribe to that theory, since I don't believe AT&T
is that bad. I find it interesting, however, that AT&T just
coincidentally sells a _far_ weaker lineup of Android (and Blackberry)
phones compared to Verizon. The more cynical among us might think AT&T
intentionally sabotaged their Android and Blackberry lineup so as to not
compete against their "flagship" smartphone. The less cynical might
assume the reason was that manufacturers might be more willing to market
their best devices through carriers other than AT&T knowing that AT&T has
put their proverbial eggs in one basket, and gives comparitively little
marketing support to other devices. Anecdotally, I've seen very few AT&T
Android phones "in the wild," but regularly see Verizon and T-Mobile
Android phones.
I know someone with the AT&T Galaxy S phone...
Post by Todd Allcock
Objectively, when was the last time you remember seeing a TV ad for an
AT&T-branded Android phone? Conversely, how many Verizon Droid ads (and
iPhone) ads have you seen?
AT&T seems to be advertising their Win 7 phones pretty hard right now
They did advertise for the aria somewhat, but that was a tiny freaking phone
Post by Todd Allcock
Frankly, it'll be interesting to see what Android and Blackberry phones
start showing up at AT&T after Verizon starts selling the iPhone.
AT&T currently has an exclusive on the BB Torch, the new hotness in
blackberry
Todd Allcock
2011-02-03 04:51:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justin
Post by Todd Allcock
Objectively, when was the last time you remember seeing a TV ad for an
AT&T-branded Android phone? Conversely, how many Verizon Droid ads (and
iPhone) ads have you seen?
AT&T seems to be advertising their Win 7 phones pretty hard right now
They did advertise for the aria somewhat, but that was a tiny freaking phone
MS is heavily co-oping those AT&T ads, so AT&T has little to lose.
Post by Justin
Post by Todd Allcock
Frankly, it'll be interesting to see what Android and Blackberry phones
start showing up at AT&T after Verizon starts selling the iPhone.
AT&T currently has an exclusive on the BB Torch, the new hotness in
blackberry
Good point- I'd fogotten they've got the Torch.

It should be interesting to see where AT&T and Verizon go with their
advertising after Verizon's initial and inevitable "we've got the iPhone
now" campaign plays out- do both companies start pushing their exclusives
to differentiate since the iPhone is now a zero-sum game, or will we all
be bombarded by "our iPhone is better than their iPhone" ads for the next
year or two? ;)

nospam
2011-02-01 05:31:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Todd Allcock
iPhone loyalists can't have their cake and eat it too. If the AT&T
naysayers are to be believed (including our own "nospam,") AT&T is such a
lousy carrier iPhone users only put up with AT&T because it was the only
carrier that sold the iPhone, and they expect a mass exodus to Verizon
over the next two years as AT&T contracts expire. If this is true, why
in God's name would prospective Android buyers, who can use any carrier
they choose, willingly use the carrier iPhone users only use at a
figurative gunpoint?
android is slowing down at verizon too. they can't maintain their
insane growth forever.

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Ted Nelson
2011-01-31 19:49:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
complete nonsense. it's still 4th at best in marketshare, and while
there may have been a short blip in sales, the Android will completely
disappear on Feb 10th when the iPhone 4 is available on Verizon.

everyone that owns an android phone hates them, so keep that in mind.
nospam
2011-01-31 19:28:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ted Nelson
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
complete nonsense. it's still 4th at best in marketshare, and while
there may have been a short blip in sales, the Android will completely
disappear on Feb 10th when the iPhone 4 is available on Verizon.
you are delusional, and that's being generous.
Post by Ted Nelson
everyone that owns an android phone hates them, so keep that in mind.
actually, they hate your moronic posts.
crkeehn
2011-02-01 10:35:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ted Nelson
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
complete nonsense. it's still 4th at best in marketshare, and while
there may have been a short blip in sales, the Android will completely
disappear on Feb 10th when the iPhone 4 is available on Verizon.
everyone that owns an android phone hates them, so keep that in mind.
You keep claiming that "Everyone" that owns an android phone hates them...

I don't remember your asking my opinion. Personally I am very happy with my
LG android phone.
Harryk
2011-02-01 14:39:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ted Nelson
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
complete nonsense. it's still 4th at best in marketshare, and while
there may have been a short blip in sales, the Android will completely
disappear on Feb 10th when the iPhone 4 is available on Verizon.
everyone that owns an android phone hates them, so keep that in mind.
Are you on mind-altering drugs? I have an HTC Incredible android phone,
I've been using it since about two weeks after they first came out, and,
while I don't have "love/hate" relationships with cell phones, I like
mine. Works fine, has lots of features, including many I don't use,
service with Verizon is reliable. I can't think of a single reason why
I'd want to switch to an iPhone.
Ness-Net
2011-02-02 03:31:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Android has now surged past Symbian to become the world's top smartphone
platform, says a report out today from research firm Canalys.
complete nonsense. it's still 4th at best in marketshare, and while
there may have been a short blip in sales, the Android will completely
disappear on Feb 10th when the iPhone 4 is available on Verizon.

everyone that owns an android phone hates them, so keep that in mind.

Sorry, you are a complete moron.
You certainly have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

Example: my office is full of wireless industry, very highly talented engineers.
ZERO iPhones - maybe a couple of Crackberries - all the rest Android.
By CHOICE and by smart people that work in the technical side of wireless.

So, sorry, you ain't got a clue.
John Navas
2010-11-12 19:46:50 UTC
Permalink
Analysis: Why the omissions in Microsoft's last-to-the-stage phone is
bad news for the company, and the remaining glimmer of hope.

MORE:
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/210522/windows_phone_7_microsofts_disaster.html>
John Navas
2010-11-14 18:51:34 UTC
Permalink
The most dramatic aspect of the smartphone market in the second half of
2010 has been the reinvention of Samsung. Samsung's Galaxy S has shipped
7 million units and has set targets of 20 million for this year – plus
one million tablets.

Always a powerhouse in mass market handsets and feature-packed media
phones, the Korean giant was still the ugly duckling of open OS
smartphones. But the success of its Galaxy S Android range, and to a
lesser extent the Wave, which runs its own bada OS, have turned it into
a swan that is giving Apple a run for its money in terms of mobile
allure – and aims to have the same effect in tablets.

Samsung is targeting over 40m unit sales in this category next year,
according to mobile division chief Shin Jong-kyun. He told the Nikkei
business daily that Samsung is targeting 20m smartphone sales worldwide
this year and double that figure in 2011. ...

MORE:
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/14/samsung_smartphones_to_hit_android_rivals_hard/>
John Navas
2010-11-19 22:54:27 UTC
Permalink
But Motorola and HTC models in hot pursuit,
says ChangeWave consumer survey

A survey completed in early November of more than 1,200 U.S. consumers
who had purchased a smartphone in the past six months found that Apple
led all competitors in customer satisfaction, with 77% of iPhone owners
saying they were "very satisfied" with their decision and device.

But the surprise finding, said Paul Carton, vice president of research
at ChangeWave Research, was the "exceptionally strong" showing of
Motorola, which placed second, with 74% of owners giving their
Android-powered devices high marks. Motorola sells the Droid 2 and Droid
X.

In third place was HTC, which garnered a 63% vote for "very satisfied"
on the back of its Android-based Evo 4G and Droid Incredible.

Other manufacturers lagged significantly behind Apple, Motorola and HTC,
said Carton, including Samsung, with 45% of its smartphone owners very
satisfied, and Research in Motion (RIM) at 44%.

MORE:
<http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9197378/iPhone_4_trumps_Android_rivals_in_customer_satisfaction>
or <http://goo.gl/vamMS>
John Navas
2010-11-23 21:40:26 UTC
Permalink
In a bid to bring the life-saving emergency service 911 into the 21st
century, the FCC is looking at letting citizens report crimes through
text messages and even stream video from their mobile phones to
emergency centers.

MORE: <http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/11/fcc-911-texting/>

Twitter 9-1-1, you heard it here first!
John Navas
2011-01-04 17:12:48 UTC
Permalink
Google's Android platform is gaining fast on market leader Apple and its
iPhone, according to a recent survey by research firm Nielsen.

The report stated that Android has 25.8 percent of the U.S. smartphone
market, compared to the iPhone 28.6 percent share. Meanwhile, Research
in Motion's BlackBerry devices, once the leader in the smartphone
market, continues to decline with a 26.1 percent of the market. RIM had
been ahead of Apple and Google with a 33 percent share as recent as June
2010.

While Nielsen noted that 87 percent of the smartphone market is
controlled fairly evenly by Apple, Google and RIM, devices running on
Google's Android platform are now the clear favorite among new handset
buyers, with over 40 percent of devices being Android -- beating out the
iPhone and BlackBerry at 27 and 19 percent, respectively.

Demand for Internet-enabled phones continues to be strong, with fully 45
percent of November buyers choosing a smartphone over a feature
handsets.

MORE: <http://www.mobiledia.com/news/78828.html>
--
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?
George Kerby
2011-01-05 18:44:24 UTC
Permalink
BULLSHIT, NavASS:

<http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/20101213/report-says-iphone-kicking-droids-
posterior/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker>

The driod is like you: a fuckin' NERD!
Post by John Navas
Google's Android platform is gaining fast on market leader Apple and its
iPhone, according to a recent survey by research firm Nielsen.
The report stated that Android has 25.8 percent of the U.S. smartphone
market, compared to the iPhone 28.6 percent share. Meanwhile, Research
in Motion's BlackBerry devices, once the leader in the smartphone
market, continues to decline with a 26.1 percent of the market. RIM had
been ahead of Apple and Google with a 33 percent share as recent as June
2010.
While Nielsen noted that 87 percent of the smartphone market is
controlled fairly evenly by Apple, Google and RIM, devices running on
Google's Android platform are now the clear favorite among new handset
buyers, with over 40 percent of devices being Android -- beating out the
iPhone and BlackBerry at 27 and 19 percent, respectively.
Demand for Internet-enabled phones continues to be strong, with fully 45
percent of November buyers choosing a smartphone over a feature
handsets.
MORE: <http://www.mobiledia.com/news/78828.html>
John Navas
2010-11-23 21:42:12 UTC
Permalink
<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/TMobile-Expands-HSPA-4G-Network-to-8-New-Cities-151269/>

* Detroit
* Grand Junction, Colo
* Harlingen, Texas
* Lafayette and South Bend, Ind
* Montgomery, Ala
* Roanoke-Lynchburg, Va
* Youngstown, Ohio
Steve Sobol
2010-11-24 01:52:07 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:42:12 -0800
Post by John Navas
<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/TMobile-Expands-HSPA-4G-Network-to-8-New-Cities-151269/>
* Detroit
* Grand Junction, Colo
* Harlingen, Texas
* Lafayette and South Bend, Ind
* Montgomery, Ala
* Roanoke-Lynchburg, Va
* Youngstown, Ohio
Youngstown is a small city in Eastern Ohio that has a population MUCH smaller than that of the Victor Valley (about 300k in the area, including all four of the cities here).

But Youngstown got "4G" first.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
--
Steve Sobol <***@justthe.net>
SMS
2010-11-24 02:02:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve Sobol
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:42:12 -0800
Post by John Navas
<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/TMobile-Expands-HSPA-4G-Network-to-8-New-Cities-151269/>
* Detroit
* Grand Junction, Colo
* Harlingen, Texas
* Lafayette and South Bend, Ind
* Montgomery, Ala
* Roanoke-Lynchburg, Va
* Youngstown, Ohio
Youngstown is a small city in Eastern Ohio that has a population MUCH smaller than that of the Victor Valley (about 300k in the area, including all four of the cities here).
But Youngstown got "4G" first.
If only it were actually 4G.
Steve Sobol
2010-11-24 02:05:05 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:02:03 -0800
Post by SMS
Post by Steve Sobol
Youngstown is a small city in Eastern Ohio that has a population MUCH smaller than that of the Victor Valley (about 300k in the area, including all four of the cities here).
But Youngstown got "4G" first.
If only it were actually 4G.
Note that I put "4G" in quotes. Point is: The Victor Valley has a population of around 300,000. Youngstown is... hold on, checking Wikipedia... about 80,000. We should have gotten the upgrade first. IMHO of course.
--
Steve Sobol <***@justthe.net>
SMS
2010-11-24 02:37:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve Sobol
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:02:03 -0800
Post by SMS
Post by Steve Sobol
Youngstown is a small city in Eastern Ohio that has a population MUCH smaller than that of the Victor Valley (about 300k in the area, including all four of the cities here).
But Youngstown got "4G" first.
If only it were actually 4G.
Note that I put "4G" in quotes.
Verizon's early LTE network, and Sprint's current Wimax network are
technically not 4G either.
Steve Sobol
2010-11-24 04:41:19 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:37:45 -0800
Post by SMS
Verizon's early LTE network, and Sprint's current Wimax network are
technically not 4G either.
Why are you arguing a point that wasn't even relevant to my original post?

OK. I know it's not REAL 4G. THAT IS WHY I PUT "4G" IN QUOTES.

Point is, it's faster than their original 3G, it's a network upgrade, and Youngstown got it before we did here.

Can you please stop arguing that it's not real 4G? Thing is, I am NOT disagreeing with you on that point.
--
Steve Sobol <***@justthe.net>
John Navas
2010-11-28 17:48:42 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:41:19 -0800, in
Post by Steve Sobol
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:37:45 -0800
Post by SMS
Verizon's early LTE network, and Sprint's current Wimax network are
technically not 4G either.
Why are you arguing a point that wasn't even relevant to my original post?
OK. I know it's not REAL 4G. THAT IS WHY I PUT "4G" IN QUOTES.
Point is, it's faster than their original 3G, it's a network upgrade, and Youngstown got it before we did here.
Can you please stop arguing that it's not real 4G? Thing is, I am NOT disagreeing with you on that point.
Steven is just trying to be pissy about T-Mobile, even though he had to
admit it's no worse than his favorite carrier.
--
John

"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
John Navas
2010-11-28 17:47:22 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:02:03 -0800, in
Post by SMS
Post by Steve Sobol
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:42:12 -0800
Post by John Navas
<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/TMobile-Expands-HSPA-4G-Network-to-8-New-Cities-151269/>
* Detroit
* Grand Junction, Colo
* Harlingen, Texas
* Lafayette and South Bend, Ind
* Montgomery, Ala
* Roanoke-Lynchburg, Va
* Youngstown, Ohio
Youngstown is a small city in Eastern Ohio that has a population MUCH smaller than that of the Victor Valley (about 300k in the area, including all four of the cities here).
But Youngstown got "4G" first.
If only it were actually 4G.
It's as much "4G" as anything else currently being deployed.
--
John

"Facts? We ain't got no facts. We don't need no facts. I don't have
to show you any stinking facts!" [with apologies to John Huston]
John Navas
2010-11-04 14:43:46 UTC
Permalink
MORE:
<http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/10/the_federal_communications_com_5.html?hpid=topnews>
John Navas
2010-11-04 14:53:55 UTC
Permalink
MORE:
<http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/is-this-sonys-rumored-playstation-smartphone/?news=123>
Justin
2010-09-05 20:34:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Navas
Also boots Linux from the No. 3 spot in OS usage online
This must be based on clients then
Post by John Navas
Computerworld - Apple's iOS mobile operating system is now the
third-most popular platform on the Internet, with a share nearly six
times larger than Android's, a Web measurement company said Wednesday.
Only nearly 6 times larger with 3 and a half years more time to make
the usage that high?

Android hasn't really even been that big for a year yet and look at how
it's coming on strong
John Navas
2010-09-06 15:25:58 UTC
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Verizon is hard at work trying to get its first Long Term Evolution
(LTE) high-speed network online late this year, but MetroPCS will beat
Verizon according to reports that the MetroPCS LTE network will go live
in September. MetroPCS is the fifth-largest operator in the U.S., and a
Samsung executive let slip that the MetroPCS LTE network would light up
Dallas and Las Vegas next month.

The Verizon LTE network may go live in November, but the carrier has
indicated the first LTE-capable smartphone won’t appear on the network
until next year. Samsung has stated that MetroPCS will make the Samsung
Craft phone available in September alongside the launch of the LTE
network. The Craft is thought to be a smartphone with sliding QWERTY
keyboard, and steps down to CDMA when LTE is not available.

MORE: <http://gigaom.com/2010/08/27/metropcs-to-win-u-s-race-to-lte/>
Steve Sobol
2010-09-06 20:39:01 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, spamfilter1
@navasgroup.com says...
Post by John Navas
Verizon is hard at work trying to get its first Long Term Evolution
(LTE) high-speed network online late this year, but MetroPCS will beat
Verizon according to reports that the MetroPCS LTE network will go live
in September. MetroPCS is the fifth-largest operator in the U.S., and a
Samsung executive let slip that the MetroPCS LTE network would light up
Dallas and Las Vegas next month.
This would make sense, since MetroPCS has a much smaller network. OF
COURSE they're going to be able to roll out LTE more quickly.

I have friends in Vegas. It's a 2 1/2 hour drive. I really ought to buy
myself a MetroPCS LTE phone (which I could also use here, albeit not on
a 4G network) and drive up there next year.
--
Steve Sobol, Apple Valley, California, USA
***@JustThe.net
John Navas
2010-09-07 03:57:38 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:02:21 -0700, in
Alas, MetroPCS probably suffers from the same problem as other CDMA
carriers, they'll latch on to a weak PCS signal from their own tower and
prevent roaming (even though it's not free) on other CDMA carriers, but
the addition of so much roaming at least makes them a viable choice.
Wrong again(tm): That's not how it works. It will actually select an
allowed roaming partner if the home network signal is unusable.
[alt.cellular.cingular removed, Cingular no longer exists. Please remove
alt.cellular.cingular from any follow-ups]
[silly, rude change reversed]
--
John

"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." -Alexander Pope
"Being ignorant is not so much a shame,
as being unwilling to learn." -Benjamin Franklin
John Navas
2010-08-21 04:59:40 UTC
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Apple has applied for a patent covering an elaborate series of measures
to automatically protect iPhone owners from thieves and other
unauthorized users. But please withhold the applause.

The patent, titled “Systems and Methods for Identifying Unauthorized
Users of an Electronic Device,” would also protect Apple against
jailbreaks and other unauthorized hacks to the device, which were
recently excepted from copyright enforcement.

The application, which was filed in February and published Thursday,
specifically describes the identification of “hacking, jailbreaking,
unlocking, or removal of a SIM card” so that measures can be taken to
counter the user. Possible responses include surreptitiously activating
the iPhone's camera, geotagging the image and uploading it to a server
and transmitting sensitive data to a server and then wiping it from the
device.

Rest assured that this jailbreaking identification, the application
would have us believe, is simply a means of protecting owners from
unauthorized users.

MORE: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/20/apple_jailbreak_patent/>

COMMENT: Having lost the copyright/DMCA battle, Apple turns to patents.
"Resistence is futile, you WILL be assimilated!"
nospam
2010-08-21 20:55:10 UTC
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Post by John Navas
Apple has applied for a patent covering an elaborate series of measures
to automatically protect iPhone owners from thieves and other
unauthorized users. But please withhold the applause.
snip
Post by John Navas
COMMENT: Having lost the copyright/DMCA battle, Apple turns to patents.
"Resistence is futile, you WILL be assimilated!"
you might want to actually read the patent before spewing. it's about
detecting when it's being used by someone other than the original
owner, i.e., stolen, and said person jailbreaking or unlocking it in an
attempt to hide their actions, among other things.
George Kerby
2010-08-21 21:12:40 UTC
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Post by nospam
Post by John Navas
Apple has applied for a patent covering an elaborate series of measures
to automatically protect iPhone owners from thieves and other
unauthorized users. But please withhold the applause.
snip
Post by John Navas
COMMENT: Having lost the copyright/DMCA battle, Apple turns to patents.
"Resistence is futile, you WILL be assimilated!"
you might want to actually read the patent before spewing. it's about
detecting when it's being used by someone other than the original
owner, i.e., stolen, and said person jailbreaking or unlocking it in an
attempt to hide their actions, among other things.
You are attempting something that most consider futile: Communication with a
lump of lignite.
George Kerby
2010-09-01 18:23:17 UTC
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<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ectjxa>


"Remember the supposed iPhone 4 ³antenna issue² that turned out to be
affecting virtually no one and was revealed to have been little more than a
manufactured controversy on the part of geek tech pundits who favor
Verizon¹s Droid platform over the iPhone? That particular stunt turns out to
have backfired in the worst way imaginable for Droid fanatics, as it turns
out the new Droid 2 does in fact have major antenna and reception issues ­
none of which are related to how you hold it."
Larry
2010-09-02 03:15:42 UTC
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Post by George Kerby
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ectjxa>
"Remember the supposed iPhone 4 ³antenna issue² that turned out to be
affecting virtually no one and was revealed to have been little more
than a manufactured controversy on the part of geek tech pundits who
favor Verizon¹s Droid platform over the iPhone? That particular stunt
turns out to have backfired in the worst way imaginable for Droid
fanatics, as it turns out the new Droid 2 does in fact have major
antenna and reception issues ­ none of which are related to how you
hold it."
Does this make you feel better, Georgie?

Does it relieve the feeling of just having an enema?
John Navas
2010-09-02 05:23:39 UTC
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:15:42 +0000, in
Post by Larry
Post by George Kerby
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ectjxa>
"Remember the supposed iPhone 4 ³antenna issue² that turned out to be
affecting virtually no one and was revealed to have been little more
than a manufactured controversy on the part of geek tech pundits who
favor Verizon¹s Droid platform over the iPhone? That particular stunt
turns out to have backfired in the worst way imaginable for Droid
fanatics, as it turns out the new Droid 2 does in fact have major
antenna and reception issues ­ none of which are related to how you
hold it."
Does this make you feel better, Georgie?
Does it relieve the feeling of just having an enema?
"iPhone 4.1 soon? Apple to fix antenna problems, blabs exec."
<http://blogs.computerworld.com/16867/iphone_4_1_soon_apple_to_fix_antenna_problems_blabs_exec>

An executive at Mexican carrier Telcel claimed that Apple is set to
release a revised version of the iPhone 4. ... According to Marco
Quatorze, Telcel's Director of Value Added Services ... as of September
30th, when the free case program expires, revised hardware without the
reception issues will become available.

Mexican technology site canal-mx is reporting that Apple will be
reengineering its iPhone 4 antenna design. ... Telcel recently began
offering the iPhone 4 ... Mr. Quatorze was on the record when he ...
stated that after the 30th a new revision of the iPhone 4, with some
sort of internal antenna fix, would be made available by Apple.

It is unusual for a carrier executive to have such advance knowledge of
Apple's plans, or to be allowed to share it if he did. However, Quatorze
also said that Telcel will have a number of options for early buyers to
upgrade to the revised hardware without having to extend the usual
two-year contract.
George Kerby
2010-09-02 16:15:32 UTC
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Post by John Navas
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:15:42 +0000, in
Post by Larry
Post by George Kerby
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ectjxa>
"Remember the supposed iPhone 4 ³antenna issue² that turned out to be
affecting virtually no one and was revealed to have been little more
than a manufactured controversy on the part of geek tech pundits who
favor Verizon¹s Droid platform over the iPhone? That particular stunt
turns out to have backfired in the worst way imaginable for Droid
fanatics, as it turns out the new Droid 2 does in fact have major
antenna and reception issues ­ none of which are related to how you
hold it."
Does this make you feel better, Georgie?
Does it relieve the feeling of just having an enema?
"iPhone 4.1 soon? Apple to fix antenna problems, blabs exec."
<http://blogs.computerworld.com/16867/iphone_4_1_soon_apple_to_fix_antenna_pro
blems_blabs_exec>
An executive at Mexican carrier Telcel claimed that Apple is set to
release a revised version of the iPhone 4. ... According to Marco
Quatorze, Telcel's Director of Value Added Services ... as of September
30th, when the free case program expires, revised hardware without the
reception issues will become available.
Mexican technology site canal-mx is reporting that Apple will be
reengineering its iPhone 4 antenna design. ... Telcel recently began
offering the iPhone 4 ... Mr. Quatorze was on the record when he ...
stated that after the 30th a new revision of the iPhone 4, with some
sort of internal antenna fix, would be made available by Apple.
It is unusual for a carrier executive to have such advance knowledge of
Apple's plans, or to be allowed to share it if he did. However, Quatorze
also said that Telcel will have a number of options for early buyers to
upgrade to the revised hardware without having to extend the usual
two-year contract.
There is no problem, NavASS. It is a figment of hateboi imaginations,
nothing less.

But your Droid? What a P.O.S., LOL!!!
George Kerby
2010-09-02 16:12:51 UTC
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Post by Larry
Post by George Kerby
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ectjxa>
"Remember the supposed iPhone 4 ³antenna issue² that turned out to be
affecting virtually no one and was revealed to have been little more
than a manufactured controversy on the part of geek tech pundits who
favor Verizon¹s Droid platform over the iPhone? That particular stunt
turns out to have backfired in the worst way imaginable for Droid
fanatics, as it turns out the new Droid 2 does in fact have major
antenna and reception issues ­ none of which are related to how you
hold it."
Does this make you feel better, Georgie?
Does it relieve the feeling of just having an enema?
You should try it sometimes, Lar. Someone as full of shit as you needs it
desperately. You would lose about 25% of your body weight. Just make sure no
one else is in the house and keep 911 on your phone.
Who Dat?
2010-09-03 00:27:56 UTC
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Post by George Kerby
Post by Larry
Post by George Kerby
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ectjxa>
"Remember the supposed iPhone 4 ³antenna issue² that turned out to be
affecting virtually no one and was revealed to have been little more
than a manufactured controversy on the part of geek tech pundits who
favor Verizon¹s Droid platform over the iPhone? That particular stunt
turns out to have backfired in the worst way imaginable for Droid
fanatics, as it turns out the new Droid 2 does in fact have major
antenna and reception issues ­ none of which are related to how you
hold it."
Does this make you feel better, Georgie?
Does it relieve the feeling of just having an enema?
You should try it sometimes, Lar. Someone as full of shit as you needs it
desperately.
You first, troll.
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